UNS N08825 · W.Nr. 2.4858 · NiCr21Mo (DIN 17744) · BS 3076 NA16 · 38-46% Ni – 19.5-23.5% Cr – 22% min Fe – 2.5-3.5% Mo – 1.5-3.0% Cu – 0.6-1.2% Ti – C 0.05% max. A titanium-STABILIZED nickel-iron-chromium-molybdenum-copper alloy. Note: VDM Metals limits carbon to 0.025% max in its own production; the ASTM ceiling is 0.05%.
A Ni-Fe-Cr-Mo-Cu SOLID-SOLUTION alloy. It DOES NOT PRECIPITATION HARDEN; it cannot be hardened by heat treatment, and strength is raised only by cold work.
Forms
Round bar · Flat bar · Plate · Sheet · Tube and pipe · Forging. All forms are supplied to order.
Standards
THERE IS NO AMS. No published SAE/AMS specification for N08825 could be found; the VDM Metals data sheet leaves the AMS row empty, and the Special Metals, ATI, NeoNickel, Superior Tube and Fine Tubes data sheets list only ASTM/ASME (and NACE). · ASTM B425 / ASME SB-425 — rod and bar. · ASTM B424 / ASME SB-424 — plate, sheet and strip. · ASTM B564 / ASME SB-564 — forgings. · ASTM B423 / ASME SB-423 — seamless pipe and tube. · ASTM B163 / ASME SB-163 — seamless condenser and heat-exchanger tube. · ASTM B704 — welded tube · ASTM B705 — welded pipe. · ASTM B366 / ASME SB-366 — welded fittings. · DIN 17744 (material name NiCr21Mo) · DIN 17750 (plate/sheet) · DIN 17752 (bar) · BS 3076 NA16 · VdTUV 432 · NACE MR0175 / ISO 15156 and NACE MR0103 / ISO 17945. This alloy has no aerospace counterpart: none of the producer data sheets reviewed (Special Metals, VDM Metals, ATI, NeoNickel, Alleima, Superior Tube, Fine Tubes, Metalcor, Langley Alloys) gives an AMS number for N08825.
Advantage
Titanium stabilization (0.6-1.2% Ti) working together with about 40% nickel. Titanium ties up the carbon as Ti(C,N) inside the grains, so Cr23C6 does not precipitate at the grain boundaries and no chromium-depleted zone forms;
Welding
Filler metal: the matching filler is AWS A5.14 ERNiFeCr-1 (Filler Metal 65, UNS N08065) for GTAW and GMAW. Special Metals recommends INCONEL Filler Metal 625 (AWS A5.14 ERNiCrMo-3, UNS N06625) for gas-shielded welding and INCONEL Electrode 112 (AWS A5.11 ENiCrMo-3) for SMAW;
Limits
1) TEMPERATURE CEILING — above 540 °C, phase formation (microstructural change) markedly lowers ductility and impact strength; the alloy is NOT USED where creep-rupture properties are a design factor. Under ASME Section VIII Div. 1 the ceiling is 538 °C (1000 °F); VdTUV approval ends at 450 °C;
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Incoloy 825 (2.4858) is one of the three most widely used nickel alloys. Similar in composition to 904L (1.4539) stainless steel, this material has far higher corrosion resistance than any stainless steel.
Alloy 825 is also designated UNS N08825 in the UNS system. Resembling stainless steel in composition, the material is formed essentially from nickel and chromium. In Incoloy 825 iron is added to the nickel and chromium, and various further elements such as molybdenum, copper and titanium are added to that trio in order to strengthen the material against corrosion and to raise its resistance.
With outstanding corrosion resistance, this material was designed and produced for use in extremely harsh and hostile environments. Carrying a very high content of quality alloying elements, it is expensive, and both the service environment and the necessity of the material should be assessed carefully before it is specified. Usable from time to time even in sulphuric and phosphoric acid environments, the material is highly resistant to corrosion thanks to the additional elements it contains such as copper and molybdenum. It has better corrosion resistance than stainless steels, and thanks to the combination of all these elements Alloy 825 withstands even nitric acid, nitrates and chloride environments.
Its applications and service environments are very wide and numerous. Incoloy 825 (Alloy 825) is frequently chosen and used in environments where chemical reactions take place, in environments where chemical processes are carried out, in filters, in pollution control systems, in oil and gas systems, in acid production plants, in nuclear power plant components, and in the collection and containment of radioactive waste.
Chemical Composition (NiCr21Mo) · Incoloy 825 (2.4858)
Round bar · Flat bar · Plate · Sheet · Tube · Forgings All forms are supplied to order.
Standards by Product Form
STANDARDS BY PRODUCT FORM
DEFENCE METAL
Product form
Standards
Round bar, flat bar
NO AMS. · ASTM B425 / ASME SB-425 (rod and bar) · ASTM B775 (general requirements) · DIN 17752 · DIN 17744 (NiCr21Mo) · BS 3076 NA16 · VdTUV 432 · NACE MR0175 / ISO 15156 · NACE MR0103 / ISO 17945
Forging
NO AMS. · ASTM B564 / ASME SB-564 (nickel alloy forgings) · ASTM B425 for forging stock. Hot working 870-1180 °C, with the final hot work finished between 870 and 980 °C.
Plate
NO AMS. · ASTM B424 / ASME SB-424 (plate, sheet, strip) · ASTM B906 (general requirements) · DIN 17750 · VdTUV 432 · NACE MR0175 / ISO 15156
Sheet, strip
NO AMS. · ASTM B424 / ASME SB-424 (plate, sheet, strip) · DIN 17750 · ISO 6208 (strip) · VdTUV 432
Tube and pipe — seamless
NO AMS. · ASTM B423 / ASME SB-423 (seamless pipe and tube) · ASTM B163 / ASME SB-163 (seamless condenser and heat-exchanger tube) · ASTM B829 and B775 (general requirements) · VdTUV 432 · NACE MR0175 / ISO 15156. B423 carries two separate sets of mechanical minimums (hot-finished / cold-worked); B163 has the annealed condition only.
NO AMS. · AWS A5.14 ERNiFeCr-1 (matching filler; Filler Metal 65, UNS N08065) · AWS A5.14 ERNiCrMo-3 (alloy 625, UNS N06625) · AWS A5.11 ENiCrMo-3 (covered electrode, Electrode 112). ASME Section IX: base metal P-No. 45; the ERNiCrMo-3 / ENiCrMo-3 fillers are F-No. 43.
THERE IS NO AMS: N08825 is not covered by an aerospace material specification. None of the producer data sheets reviewed gives an AMS number; VDM Metals leaves the AMS column of its specification table empty. ASTM/ASME lead on this card because the commercial ground for this alloy is pressure-vessel and process equipment, not aerospace. The ASME Section IX P-No. 45 assignment was confirmed from three sources rather than four (US NRC Table A4, a P-Number reference chart, and Quality Inspection Forms); it must be verified against the Section IX text when the welding procedure is written. ISO 6208 is listed for strip by VDM Metals alone; the ISO 9723/9724 numbers could not be confirmed by another independent source and were therefore left out of the map.
Incoloy 825 (UNS N08825 / W.Nr. 2.4858) is a Ni-Fe-Cr-Mo-Cu alloy built to work in both reducing and oxidising environments. Despite the “Incoloy” name it is not a high-temperature alloy — it is a wet-corrosion alloy, and above about 540 °C it loses ductility and toughness to phase formation.
Standards by Product Form · Incoloy 825 (N08825 / 2.4858)
DEFENCE METAL
Sheet · Plate · Strip
ASTM B424 / ASME SB-424 · ASTM B906 (clad plate) · DIN 17750 · ISO 6208 · VdTÜV Wb. 432
Bar · rod · wire
ASTM B425 / ASME SB-425 · DIN 17744/17752/17753 · ISO 9723/9724 · BS 3076 NA16. There is no separate ASTM wire standard — B425 and DIN 17744
Forgings
ASTM B564 / ASME SB-564 · ASME Code Case N-572
Seamless pipe and tube
ASTM B423 / SB-423 (pipe and tube) · ASTM B163 / SB-163 (condenser and heat-exchanger tube) · ASME Code Case 1936
Welded pipe / tube
ASTM B704 and B705 — which of the two is tube and which is pipe could not be confirmed in a second source; verify against the current ASTM before ordering
Fittings
ASTM B366 / ASME SB-366
General requirements
B751, B775, B829 — umbrella standards, not product specifications
ASME
Section I · Section VIII Div. 1 and Div. 2 Class 1 and 2 · Section III Div. 1 Classes 1 and 3. VIII-1 pressure-vessel approval to 538 °C (1000 °F)
VdTÜV
Only to 450 °C. The 88 °C gap between ASME’s 538 °C and VdTÜV’s 450 °C is a genuine trap for anyone designing to PED in Europe or Turkey from a US datasheet
Line pipe
API 5LC (CRA line pipe) and API 5LD (CRA clad/lined pipe) are listed for sheet/plate and strip. API 6A / 17D approvals could not be verified — do not claim them
NACE
Listed under NACE MR0175 / ISO 15156 (verified in four independent sources) · NACE MR0103 (refinery sour service) for bar and plate
Composition:Ni 38.0–46.0 % · Cr 19.5–23.5 % · Fe 22.0 % min · Mo 2.50–3.50 % · Cu 1.50–3.00 % · Ti 0.60–1.20 % · C ≤0.05 % · Mn ≤1.0 % · Si ≤0.5 % · Al ≤0.2 % · S ≤0.03 %. Mill limits are tighter than ASTM in places: one European mill runs C ≤0.025 %, S ≤0.015 %, P ≤0.02 % and Co ≤1.0 %; another gives S ≤0.010 %. A heat that passes B425 may fail a mill-grade enquiry. And note: one distributor publishes titanium as 0.06–1.2 % — that is a typo for 0.60–1.20 %; a genuine 0.06 % titanium would destroy the stabilisation the alloy depends on.
What the three signature additions do.Titanium (0.6–1.2 %): in the originator’s words it “serves, with an appropriate heat treatment, to stabilize the alloy against sensitization to intergranular corrosion” — it ties up carbon as TiC so chromium carbides do not precipitate on grain boundaries and deplete them of chromium. Note the conditional clause: titanium alone does not do it.Molybdenum (2.5–3.5 %): aids resistance to pitting and crevice corrosion. Copper (1.5–3.0 %): with nickel and molybdenum it gives “outstanding resistance to reducing environments such as those containing sulfuric and phosphoric acids” — this is where 825 beats plain Ni-Cr-Mo grades, and why the alloy exists as a distinct grade rather than being replaced by 904L or 625. Chromium gives resistance to oxidising substances (nitric acid, nitrates, oxidising salts); nickel gives resistance to chloride-ion stress-corrosion cracking.
Sources print 585, 586 and 590 MPa. Do not average them: quote 586 MPa (85 ksi) as the ASTM-derived figure and note the variants
Hot-finished seamless tube
Yield ≥172 MPa (25 ksi) · Tensile ≥517 MPa (75 ksi) · Elongation ≥30 %. A genuine trap most pages omit: buy hot-finished when your designer assumed 241 MPa and you are 29 % short
Hardness
Sources diverge irreconcilably: one gives ≤90 HRB (reference), another ≤327 HB — and 90 HRB is about 185 HB. Do not publish a single hardness maximum
Cold-drawn tubing (typical)
Tensile 1000 MPa (145 ksi) · Yield 889 MPa (129 ksi) · Elongation 15 % — roughly twice the annealed yield. No specification minimum for a cold-worked temper was found
Yield ≥172 MPa at 525 °C · ISO-V impact (bar) 100 J/cm² transverse, 150 J/cm² longitudinal (note the unusual J/cm² units, not J)
Physical properties: density 8.14 g/cm³ · melting range 1370–1400 °C · specific heat (20 °C) 440 J/kg·K · thermal conductivity about 11.1 W/m·K (sources diverge between 10.8 and 11.1) · modulus of elasticity 196 GPa (static) or 193 GPa (dynamic) — both defensible. Magnetic behaviour: fully austenitic and effectively non-magnetic in the annealed condition (µ = 1.005 at 200 Oe); the Curie point is below −196 °C, so it stays non-magnetic to cryogenic temperatures. No source quantifies the permeability rise after cold work — so do not claim it “remains non-magnetic after cold working”. The mean coefficient of thermal expansion could not be verified and is not printed here.
Heat Treatment — It Says “Annealed”, But Which Anneal?
HEAT TREATMENT — SCHEMATIC
DEFENCE METAL
ANNEAL (solution anneal) — the standard delivery condition
Step
ANNEAL (solution anneal) — the standard delivery condition
Summary
The usual delivery and service condition of this solid-solution alloy. It dissolves carbides, removes cold-work stress and leaves a fine grain. It DOES NOT HARDEN the material; this is the condition in which the ASTM minimums are measured.
Temperature
Producer practice bands: 930-980 °C (1700-1800 °F) — Special Metals, Alleima and Salomons Metalen · 920-980 °C, preferably 940 ± 10 °C — VDM Metals · 927-1038 °C (1700-1900 °F) — ATI and Jacquet · up to 980 °C — Langley Alloys. No single figure is given; the sources quote different bands.
Time
VDM Metals gives a holding time based on thickness (d): 3 min/mm for d <= 10 mm · 30 min + (d-10) x 2 min/mm for d = 10-20 mm · 50 min + (d-20) x 1 min/mm for d > 20 mm. ATI and Jacquet give no time, only ‘hold until the temperature is uniform through the section’. A peer-reviewed study (MDPI Metals 11(5):771) uses 1.5 minutes per millimetre of bar radius.
Cooling
Rapid air cooling or water quenching. VDM Metals calls for rapid water quenching for optimum corrosion properties; Special Metals and Salomons say ‘rapid air cooling or water quenching’; ATI says ‘air cool or water quench’. Heavy sections are water quenched.
Purpose
The standard delivery condition for corrosion service and general use. The ASTM B424 / B425 / B423 / B163 / B564 / B704 minimums apply in this condition.
Specifications
ASTM B424 · B425 · B423 · B163 · B564 · B704 · B705 (all are written around the annealed condition). No AMS.
DEFENCE METAL
STABILIZING ANNEAL
Step
STABILIZING ANNEAL
Summary
The treatment that ties the carbon to titanium and precipitates it as Ti(C,N) inside the grains, so that Cr23C6 and the chromium-depleted zone do not form at the grain boundaries. It is applied when maximum intergranular corrosion resistance is required, or when the material has been through the sensitization band.
Temperature
870-955 °C (1600-1750 °F) — ATI and Jacquet. The VDM Metals NACE paper and Virgamet give 940 °C (1725 °F) for maximum stabilization. Special Metals and Salomons quote no separate stabilizing temperature; they state that the lower end of the 930-980 °C annealing band does this job.
Time
One hour minimum (ATI, Jacquet and the VDM Metals paper). No published data was found for shorter times.
Cooling
Air cool or water quench; the same practice as for annealing.
Purpose
Maximum intergranular corrosion resistance in commercial phosphoric/sulphuric and nitric acid service. VDM Metals REQUIRES material that has been exposed to 600-650 °C to be stabilize-annealed before it is returned to that service.
Specifications
Verification test: ASTM G28 Method A (ferric sulphate – sulphuric acid) or ASTM A262 Practice C.
DEFENCE METAL
HOT-WORKING BAND
Step
HOT-WORKING BAND
Summary
The forging and hot-rolling range. This is not a hardening treatment; it is a forming range.
Temperature
870-1180 °C (1600-2150 °F) — Special Metals and Salomons Metalen. Virgamet gives 870-1175 °C. For maximum corrosion resistance the FINAL hot working must be finished between 870 and 980 °C.
Time
No time is given in the specifications; it depends on the section and the press capacity.
Cooling
Air cool or faster after hot work; water quench for heavy sections.
Purpose
Forgings and hot-rolled product. An ANNEAL follows hot working.
No post-weld heat treatment is REQUIRED for normal corrosion service; the titanium stabilization preserves intergranular corrosion resistance in the as-welded condition (Special Metals, ATI, Sandmeyer, Superior Tube, Fine Tubes).
Temperature
A 940 °C stabilizing anneal where one is judged necessary. NO post-weld heat treatment is applied in the 593-816 °C band.
Note
No preheat is required. Keep heat input below 1.0 kJ/mm and interpass temperature below 100 °C (Alleima). Removing sulphur and grease before welding is mandatory to prevent hot cracking (TWI).
DEFENCE METAL
Range to avoid
Step
SENSITIZATION BAND — do not dwell in this band
Temperature
593-816 °C (1100-1500 °F) — ATI and Jacquet call for prolonged exposure to be avoided. The VDM Metals data sheet requires a stabilizing anneal for material that has been exposed to 600-650 °C.
Time
The VDM Metals NACE paper measured that a 16-hour post-weld heat treatment at 650 °C and 700 °C clearly raises the corrosion rate, while the effect at 600 °C remains small.
Result
NO stress-relief or post-weld heat-treatment cycle that falls in this band may be applied. If the band has been entered, it is corrected by a 940 °C stabilizing anneal.
Mechanism
Precipitation of Cr23C6 at the grain boundaries and chromium depletion of the adjacent zone. The result is susceptibility to intergranular corrosion.
The diagram is schematic; the time axis is not to scale. No published TTT/CCT curve for N08825 could be found, so no curve is drawn — only the cycle schematic is given. Incoloy 825 DOES NOT PRECIPITATION HARDEN — there is NO ageing condition (H900, H1025 and the like) and none should be sought. Incoloy 825 DOES NOT PRECIPITATION HARDEN. It is a solid-solution alloy and cannot be hardened by heat treatment. Strength is raised only by cold work, and annealing removes it again. No published TTT/CCT curve was found, so no curve is drawn. The diagram is schematic and the time axis is not to scale. The temperature bands differ from producer to producer and have NOT been averaged here; each band is given with its source. No separate STRESS-RELIEF recipe is given: none of the producer data sheets reviewed publishes an independent stress-relief temperature or time for N08825, and neither ASTM B163 nor B423 lists a ‘stress-relieved’ delivery condition. Because a stress relief risks falling inside the sensitization band (593-816 °C), no invented figure has been written. The effect of the 940 °C stabilizing anneal is verified by ASTM G28 Method A or ASTM A262 Practice C; VDM Metals recommends G28 Method A for routine acceptance. The VDM Metals paper makes one fine point: material annealed at 940-980 °C remained more susceptible to a subsequent post-weld heat treatment than material annealed at 1010-1120 °C.
Not hardenable by heat treatment. It is solid-solution strengthened; strength above the annealed minimums is obtained only by cold work (1000 MPa tensile in cold-drawn tubing).
The Anneal — Three Mills, Two Different Heat Treatments
DEFENCE METAL
Stabilise / soft anneal
930–980 °C, rapid air cool or water quench. “Heat treatment in the lower end of the range is acceptable for stabilization“
Stabilise anneal (preferred)
920–980 °C, preferably 940 ± 10 °C, rapid water quench
Solution anneal (tube practice)
1000–1100 °C for 5–10 minutes, rapid cool in air or water
This is not a rounding difference
These are two different heat treatments. A high-temperature solution anneal dissolves titanium carbides; if cooling through the carbide range is not fast enough — likely in thick plate, forgings and heavy fittings — the part can leave the mill “annealed” and still be sensitised
Sensitisation, in the originator’s own words: “Heavy sections may become sensitized during cooling from the hot-working temperature, and therefore be subject to intergranular corrosion in certain media. A stabilizing anneal… restores resistance to corrosion.” Titanium stabilisation is only realised if the material gets a stabilising heat treatment; it is not automatic.
Embrittlement / phase window: “Exposure to temperatures above about 540 °C (1000 °F) can result in microstructural changes (phase formation) that significantly lower ductility and impact strength.” The continuous-service ceiling is given as about 550 °C. Which phase forms (σ, Ti-rich or other) could not be verified and is not guessed here.
Welding, Machining and Forming
Welding — two legitimate but different philosophies
There is a real distinction that the trade literature mixes up. (A) Matching-composition consumables (Ni-Fe-Cr-Mo-Cu, i.e. 825-like): AWS A5.14 ERNiFeCr-1 (ISO 18274 S Ni 8065) for GTAW/GMAW; the originator’s matching pair is INCOLOY Filler Metal 65 (gas-shielded) and INCOLOY Welding Electrode 135 (SMAW); another mill offers AWS A5.4 E383-16 as an SMAW alternative — note that this is a stainless (27Cr-31Ni-4Mo-Cu) electrode, not a nickel-base one. (B) Over-alloyed Ni-Cr-Mo (625-type) consumables — what the originator now recommends: “For most applications, INCONEL Welding Electrode 112 for shielded metal-arc welding and INCONEL Filler Metal 625 for gas-shielded processes are used.” Filler Metal 625 = AWS A5.14 ERNiCrMo-3. (C) Highest corrosion resistance: INCO-WELD 686CPT electrode and filler metal.
Buyer-facing summary: 625-type (ERNiCrMo-3) is the workhorse and gives an over-matched, over-alloyed weld; ERNiFeCr-1 / FM 65 is the chemistry-matching choice and is what you want when weld-metal chemistry must match the base metal for a corrosion or NACE case. No source consulted recommends ERNiCr-3 (alloy 82), ENiCrFe-2/-3 (the 600/800 family) or any 316L-type filler for 825 — if a fabricator proposes one, ask for the source. Parameters: heat input <1.0 kJ/mm, interpass temperature <100 °C (single-sourced). No source specifies a preheat requirement — that is the absence of a requirement, not a statement that none is needed; do not claim either way. “No post-weld heat treatment is required” is stated, but qualify it: heavy sections, or weldments that will see intergranular-attack-prone media, may still warrant a stabilising anneal even though PWHT is not a general requirement.
Machining and forming
“All standard machining operations are readily performed… The alloy normally has optimum machining characteristics in the annealed temper.” Cutting speeds are not printed on this page — the separate machining publication the originator defers to could not be reached. Cold forming: “properties and practices are essentially the same as for alloy 600. Although the work-hardening rate is somewhat less than for the common grades of austenitic stainless steels, it is still relatively high.” That directly contradicts the very common trade claim that 825 work-hardens faster than 304/316. For the hot-working range sources diverge: 870–1180 °C and 900–1150 °C — quote both; the second source also instructs rapid cooling after hot working, which ties directly to the sensitisation warning.
Corrosion Behaviour — the Alloy’s Whole Reason to Exist
Incoloy 825 · Corrosion
DEFENCE METAL
Sulphuric acid
One mill publishes a 0.1 mm/yr (4 mpy) iso-corrosion curve for deaerated H₂SO₄ against 316L, over concentration versus temperature to about 120 °C. The curve’s numeric co-ordinates are not printed on this page — request the diagram for your own concentration. Aeration matters: the curve is explicitly for deaerated acid; aerated or oxidiser-contaminated sulphuric behaves differently, and that qualifier is almost always dropped in trade literature
Phosphoric acid
Qualitative resistance only (four sources name it as a target environment). No corrosion rates or concentration/temperature envelope were found
Nitric acid
The best hard data. 50 wt % HNO₃ boiling (115 °C): 825 0.04 mm/yr, 316L 0.12 mm/yr. 65 wt % boiling (118 °C): 825 0.11 mm/yr, 316L 0.3 mm/yr — roughly 3× better in both. The mechanism is chromium
Formic acid
“Significantly better” than standard austenitic stainless steels (single-sourced)
Chloride stress-corrosion cracking
High resistance verified in four sources; tested against 316L in 40 % CaCl₂ at 100 °C. CRITICAL LIMIT: 825 is “not fully resistant to stress-corrosion cracking in boiling magnesium chloride“. So it is not immune — far better than 316L, but it will crack in the severe laboratory test. This is the single most valuable correction on the page
Pitting and crevice
Molybdenum contributes; one mill publishes CPT values in 3 % NaCl at various pH showing 825 superior to Type 316. The numeric CPT values could not be verified
PREN
No published PREN for N08825 was found. Applying the published formula (Cr + 3.3Mo + 16N) to typical chemistry gives ≈28.6, and to the mid-range of the ASTM limits ≈31.4 — these are calculations, not published values. And PREN is a weak metric for this alloy: the formula has no nickel term, and 825’s chloride performance comes largely from nickel
Seawater
Corrosion rate below 0.01 mm/yr (single-sourced); three sources name seawater as a suitable environment
Sour service
Under ISO 15156 / MR0175 it is acceptable “in the cold worked and annealed condition with no environmental limits in respect of partial pressures of H₂S or elemental sulfur“. There is a contradiction inside the same document: a quoted institute test says usable “up to 260 °C with H₂S partial pressure up to 10,000 psi, in the absence of elementary sulfur“. Report both; do not reconcile them
What it is NOT good for
(1) Boiling magnesium chloride. (2) Service above ~540 °C — phase formation severely lowers ductility and impact strength; despite the “Incoloy” name this is not a high-temperature structural alloy. (3) Concentrated HCl / HF — no source states a limit, but equally no source recommends 825 for them; that duty belongs to the C-276 class, so do not claim resistance. (4) Sensitised heavy sections that never had a stabilising anneal. (5) Aerated or oxidiser-contaminated sulphuric acid
Frequently Asked Questions
825, 625, C-276, 904L or super duplex — when is each actually required?
These five are not a quality ladder; they solve different problems. 904L is a stainless steel — the cheapest route to copper-bearing sulphuric-acid resistance, but its nickel content is far below 825’s 38–46 %, so it offers much less chloride-SCC margin. Incoloy 825 is the value grade where you need both reducing-acid resistance (from its 1.5–3.0 % Cu plus 2.5–3.5 % Mo, which the originator credits with “outstanding resistance to reducing environments such as those containing sulfuric and phosphoric acids”) and high chloride-SCC immunity from nickel. Super duplex (S32750) beats 825 badly on strength and on pitting (PREN ≥40; no published PREN exists for 825) and is usually cheaper — but in sour service it is limited to 232 °C and 0.20 bar (3 psi) H₂S, whereas 825 is listed as acceptable under ISO 15156 “with no environmental limits”. That H₂S ceiling is the true cross-over point: below about 3 psi H₂S, super duplex usually wins on cost and strength; above it, 825 is the entry ticket.Inconel 625 (Ni ≥58 %, Mo 8–10 %, Nb 3.15–4.15 %) roughly triples the molybdenum and takes you to 982 °C service — you pay for it, and you need it only when pitting or crevice severity, or temperature, exceeds 825. C-276 is the strong-reducing-acid (HCl/HF) alloy; no source consulted recommends 825 for those duties, so specifying 825 there is a false economy.
Sour service: what does the mill certificate actually prove?
Four independent sources confirm 825 is listed in NACE MR0175 / ISO 15156, and one mill states it is acceptable “in the cold worked and annealed condition with no environmental limits in respect of partial pressures of H₂S or elemental sulfur”. But that listing is about the alloy, not about your heat. A standard EN 10204 3.1 certificate for ASTM B425 or B423 proves chemistry and room-temperature tensile properties. It does not by itself prove: that the delivered hardness is within the ISO 15156 cap; that the heat-treatment condition is the one the standard’s table covers; that any cold work is within the permitted band; or that welds and weld consumables are qualified. Be aware of two honest gaps: this research could not verify the ISO 15156-3 Annex A table number or the maximum hardness figure for N08825 in any source — treat any web page quoting one without citing the standard as unreliable. One mill’s own datasheet also contradicts itself, saying “no environmental limits… elemental sulfur” in one place and, quoting institute tests, “in the absence of elementary sulfur” in another. Therefore specify on the purchase order: (1) “manufactured, tested and certified in full compliance with NACE MR0175/ISO 15156-3, latest edition, for material type N08825”; (2) the delivery condition (annealed / cold worked) and maximum hardness with test method and location; (3) EN 10204 3.2 where a third party is warranted; (4) that weld procedures and consumables are separately MR0175-qualified.
“It says annealed on the certificate” — but which anneal?
This is the most under-reported trap on 825, and it costs real money. Incoloy 825 relies on its 0.6–1.2 % titanium to prevent sensitisation — but the originator’s own wording is conditional: titanium “serves, with an appropriate heat treatment, to stabilize the alloy against sensitization to intergranular corrosion”. The same bulletin warns that “heavy sections may become sensitized during cooling from the hot-working temperature, and therefore be subject to intergranular corrosion in certain media. A stabilizing anneal… restores resistance to corrosion.” Now look at what three mills publish as “the” anneal: the originator says 930–980 °C with the lower end explicitly preferred for stabilisation; a European mill says 920–980 °C, preferably 940 ± 10 °C; a third specifies a solution anneal at 1000–1100 °C for tube. These are two different heat treatments, not a tolerance band. A high-temperature solution anneal dissolves titanium carbides; if cooling through the carbide range is not fast enough — likely in thick plate, forgings and heavy fittings — the part can leave the mill “annealed” and still be sensitised. What to do: for heavy sections, or any duty where intergranular attack matters, specify the stabilising anneal at 930–950 °C with a rapid quench, name it explicitly on the order, and require an intergranular-corrosion test (an ASTM A262 or G28-type practice agreed with the mill) on the delivered condition. Note too the instruction to cool rapidly after hot working.
STRENGTH VALUES
DEFENCE METAL
Condition
Hardness
Yield MPa
Tensile MPa
Elongation
ASTM B425 · rod and bar, annealed
—
241
586
30%
ASTM B424 · plate, sheet and strip, annealed
—
241
586
30%
ASTM B564 · forgings, annealed
—
241
586
30%
ASTM B423 · seamless pipe and tube, hot-finished and annealed
—
172
517
30%
ASTM B423 · seamless pipe and tube, cold-worked and annealed
—
241
586
30%
ASTM B163 · condenser and heat-exchanger tube, annealed
—
241
586
30%
ASTM B704 · welded tube, annealed
—
240
586
30%
TYPICAL · annealed plate (Special Metals)
—
338
662
45%
TYPICAL · annealed product (ATI)
—
300
690
45%
The first seven rows are SPECIFICATION MINIMUMS for room temperature; the last two rows are producer TYPICAL values, not specification requirements, and the two must not be mixed. Because N08825 DOES NOT PRECIPITATION HARDEN, the rows are split by PRODUCT FORM and DELIVERY CONDITION (annealed / hot-finished plus annealed / cold-worked plus annealed), not by ageing condition. There is NO AMS row: no published AMS specification for N08825 could be found. This alloy DOES NOT PRECIPITATION HARDEN; the strength table is built around product form and delivery condition, not around an ageing condition. There is no AMS row. No published SAE/AMS specification for N08825 was found on any producer data sheet. The two ASTM B423 minimums must not be mixed: hot-finished tube is 517/172 MPa, cold-worked tube is 586/241 MPa. If the order text does not state the condition, material to the lower minimum may be delivered. ASTM B425, B424, B423, B163, B564 and B704 impose NO hardness requirement on N08825, which is why the HRC/HB column is empty. The 35 HRC (about 327 HB) ceiling under NACE MR0175 / ISO 15156-3 could be confirmed from only three independent sources (Alleima, Swagelok, Langley Alloys) and is therefore not printed as a card value; it must be read from the specification text at the time of order.